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 Viestin otsikko: NBA preseason viikko 42
ViestiLähetetty: 13.10.2003, 18:14 
Status: JäsenLiittynyt: 14.01.2003, 15:45Viestit: 842Paikkakunta: Oulu
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Eh heh, KVH:a ei ole otettu oikein kivasti vastaan, taas kerran buuausta ja buuausta.. 23 kohdetta, osunut 13, kerroinsumma 22,74.

Tällä kierroksella vain kaksi peliä..

Minnesotalta poissa ainakin Szcerbiak, Olowokandi ja mahdollisesti Sprewell. Atlantan tilanne selviää seuraavasta: "Rookie guard Travis Han- sen will be available when the Hawks play the Minnesota Timberwolves tonight in Omaha, Neb. He missed the first two exhibition games with a pulled groin, but practiced in full drills Sunday.
Hawks center Theo Ratliff missed Friday's game with a strained groin and is questionable for tonight's game. Forward Alan Henderson is out with a bad back."

Ottelu pelataan tosiaan Omahassa(Nebraska) joka ei pikaisen kartan selailun jälkeen ole lähelläkään kumpaakaan joukkuetta. .... :lol:
Mutta joo, kyllä uskon vahvasti että Minnesota möyhentää Atlantan. Ero westin kärjen ja eastin häntäpään välillä "taitaa" olla aika suuri. Minnesotan kannalta hyviä uutisia on myös Sprewellin tilanne, Yahoon sivuilla sanottiin viime viikolla seuraavaa: "expected to play exhibition games next week". Startribunen sivuilta ei löytynyt vielä mitään ennakkoa illan peleihin joten vahvistusta asialle ei ole. Atlantan rosteria silmäillessä tulee kyllä itku, Abdur-Rahim on myöskin tästä pelistä pois(eikä oo tietoa milloin palaa). Väitän rohkeasti että Minnesota hoitaa tämän pelin vähintään 8 kertaa kymmenestä. 1,35 Expelta kannattaa poimia pois.

Cleveland-Milwaukee, hei miten helvetissä Cleveland on bookkereiden mielestä noin suuri suosikki?
syy selviää kun katselee hieman otteluraportteja, "The status of seven players who sat out their victory over Chicago on Saturday because of injuries will be determined at game time." ja lista loukkaantuneista Joel Przybilla (strained tendon) and Daniel Santiago (thigh bruise), Jason Caffey (right knee tendinitis), Toni Kukoc (groin strain), Brian Skinner (groin strain), Joe Smith (toe infection) and Tim Thomas (bruised calf).

Eli lyhyesti ja ytimekkäästi, ei kannata koskea. Tai jos oikein tarkemmin katsoo niin ehkä pienellä Clevelandia, tuossa pieni pätkä Beacon Journalista: "Silas said he will start James, Davis, Boozer, Ilgauskas and Darius Miles and his starters will likely see around 30 minutes each."
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 Viestin otsikko:
ViestiLähetetty: 14.10.2003, 18:23 
Status: JäsenLiittynyt: 14.01.2003, 15:45Viestit: 842Paikkakunta: Oulu
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Uhh, pelejä olisi melkein sama arvata tikkaa heittämällä..mutta tämähän oli odotettavissa.

Orlando-New Orleans. T-Mac taitaa pelata Orlandolla, vastapainona Gooden poissa. New Orleansilla Mashburn ulkona. 61,31-38,69

New Jersey-Philadelphia, "Kidd will remain on the sidelines for at least three more games, including tonight against the Sixers at the Meadowlands, resting from a long season and Olympic qualifying . . . Aaron Williams sat practice yesterday, resting right foot (infected blister)." ja "Glenn Robinson (left knee) and Derrick Coleman (groin) took part in last night's scrimmage. Kenny Thomas, who underwent an MRI exam, sat out with what was called a "left flank contusion." Greg Buckner remained out with a sore left hamstring..." arvio 60,77-39,23 jolla ei löydy pelattavaa.

Miami-San Antonio, siis niinku joo. San Antonio varmastikin lepuuttaa starttereita mutta kyllä joukkueella on todella laaja pooli pelaajia. Tämän illan peliä helpottaa vielä seuraava tieto: "Dwyane Wade will join Caron Butler on the sidelines tonight when the Heat plays its home exhibition opener against the Spurs at AmericanAirlines Arena." San Antoniolla ei liene loukkaantumisia kun Mercerin peliesityksistä tehdään juttua. Tarkkaa arviota en uskalla laittaa mutta kyllä San Antonio on ehdottomasti pelattava.

Memphis-Washington, "Injury update: Wizards: Jerry Stackhouse (sore right knee) is questionable. Grizzlies: Michael Dickerson (sports hernia) is out." 60,86-39,14. Ei pelattavaa.

Chicago-Indiana, "Coach Bill Cartwright is concerned with Marcus Fizer's surgically repaired left knee. "I don't like the way he's moving,'' Cartwright said. "The knee is not 100 percent.'' Fizer won't play tonight against Indiana.Tyson Chandler sat out practice with nagging pain in his back, and he's unlikely to play tonight. Eddie Robinson did practice and might play in his first game tonight. Pippen said he would take a few more practices until he plays in an exhibition game. ... The sprained ligaments in Jalen Rose's right thumb were re-evaluated Monday. Management is expecting the follow-up results to confirm that no surgery is needed." Indianalla ei ilmeisesti pahempia loukkaantumisia. 35,99-64,01. 1,66 tarjolla johon peliä.

Utah-New York, pelataan Boisessa. "Houston, rehabbing from arthroscopic right-knee surgery, participated in his first practice yesterday but will miss his fifth preseason game tonight when the Knicks face the Jazz in Boise, Idaho." En koske enkä heitä arviota.

Portland-Seattle, "Injuries: Sonics — F Nick Collison (dislocated left shoulder) and G Luke Ridnour (abdominal strain) are out. Trail Blazers — F Dale Davis (left groin weakness) and F Ruben Patterson (left Achilles tendinitis) are questionable, Guard Derek Anderson sat out Monday's practice because of back spasms, but said he hopes to play tonight. . ."
Vähintäänkin 65% saan Portlandille, eli Expektin kerroin on pelattava.

Sacramento-Houston, loukkaantumisista ei tietoa. Houston on aivan jäässä, vaikka kyseessä on vasta preseason voinee esityksistä tehdä jotain johtopäätöksiä. Kummatkin joukkueet parantavat varmasti kehno(i)sta viime pelistä.. itselleni olisi kyllä jonkinlainen pommi jos Sacramento häviää kotiareenallaan puppeli-raketeille. 1,40 hyvinkin pelattava.

LA_Clippers-Dallas, "Michael Finley participated in his first full practice since developing a sore right quadriceps muscle early in camp. He's expected to make his preseason debut tonight against the Los Angeles Clippers. Added coach Don Nelson: "He really looked sharp. I was surprised.", "Steve Nash left practice early to receive stitches to close a gash over his left eye. Rookie guard Jon Stefansson accidentally clipped Nash with his right wrist. Nash is expected to play tonight against the Clippers, Don Nelson said." "Eduardo Najera (shoulder) also practiced Monday"

"Busy elsewhere undergoing tests, Kaman did not practice Monday. Even if Kaman is OK, the Clippers will be short-handed tonight when they play the Dallas Mavericks in an exhibition game at Staples Center.The club's two Serbs, center Predrag Drobnjak and point guard Marko Jaric, were scheduled to fly to Tucson this afternoon en route to a Wednesday appointment in Nogales, Mexico, to attend to visa matters. They are expected to rejoin the team before Thursday's game. Also, forward Tremaine Fowlkes will sit out for the second consecutive game because of a sprained right knee. Fowlkes, facing an increasingly uphill battle to make the roster, has not practiced since Thursday.
Dunleavy said Sunday after Rice's first practice with the Clippers that he probably would not play the 6-foot-8 swingman tonight. Monday, he was undecided."

Kyllä tuo Dallasille GB:lla tarjottu 1,51 kannattaa poimia pois. Tarkkaa arviota en uskalla tähänkään heittää mutta siinä 70-prosentin tietämillä se pyörii.

LA_Lakers-Phoenix, laakereilta on ainakin kobe sivussa, myös säkki on mahdollisesti poissa. Phoenixilta ei ilmeisesti ketään sivussa, Voskuhl tekee paluun kokoonpanoon, uusi mies Koturovic ei vielä pelaa. Parasta varmasti jättää vedonlyönnilliset hommat väliin, Phoenixin kertoimet ovat parhaimmillaankin vain 2,55-tasoa..ja Lakers on aina Lakers vaikka missä paistaisi.

24 kohdetta, osunut 13, kerroinsumma 22,74.
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 Viestin otsikko:
ViestiLähetetty: 15.10.2003, 20:29 
Status: JäsenLiittynyt: 14.01.2003, 15:45Viestit: 842Paikkakunta: Oulu
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Heh heh, jokainen kohde väärin. 29 kohdetta, osunut 13, kerroinsumma 22,74.

Tänään neljä peliä..

Detroit-Boston:

WALKING WOUNDED: Add backup point guard Lindsey Hunter to the list of Pistons who aren't 100 percent. He has a right hamstring pull and is questionable for tonight's game against Boston. Starting small forward Tayshaun Prince has a sore knee, although he practiced. Rookie forward-center Darko Milicic might not play because of a hip pointer that has bothered him for a couple of days. Hamilton has been slowed by a right thigh injury. Brown said if the veterans can't play, "it would give the younger guys like Justin (Hamilton), Derrick (Zimmerman) and Ron (Dupree) a chance to play." Zimmerman, a free-agent point guard, was added to the roster Saturday. NOTEBOOK: Okur practiced for the second straight day as he recovers from a left ankle injury. Brown said Okur doesn't have the spring he had before the injury. . . . Guard Hubert Davis is still sidelined with a left hamstring injury, and guard Bobby Sura is still out with a stiff back.

The Celtics continue to mix and match lineups, in part by design and in part by necessity, as a few players remain sidelined with injuries. Tony Delk is not expected to play in the next three exhibition games because of a strained right calf. O'Brien expects Walter McCarty (swollen right knee) to be ready to practice today. Jumaine Jones is one week into his recovery from a strained bilateral hamstring. His return will be anywhere from a few days to another week.

Indiana-Denver

O'Neal wrenched his already sore back late in the third quarter and left the game. "They're letting guys take my feet from up under me," a clearly irritated O'Neal said from his locker stall after the game. "Right now, it's not a good situation for me. I'll have to see the doctor (this morning) and go from there. But right now, the preseason is not even a concern of mine. I'm no good to this team without my mobility. I've got to get healthy."Al Harrington also sat out Tuesday's game nursing a sore right shin. He and O'Neal join a growing list of Pacers veterans in street clothes. Kenny Anderson, Austin Croshere, Jonathan Bender and Anthony Johnson (finger) have all missed games this preseason while trying to heal from an assortment of injuries. That leaves the Pacers with just 12 fully healthy bodies for tonight's game against Denver at Conseco Fieldhouse.

Veteran guard Jon Barry did not make the road trip because of an apparent cervical strain and is scheduled for an MRI today. He will not play in Indianapolis or Toronto but could catch up with the team in Detroit. Also ruled out for tonight is veteran forward Ryan Bowen, who has a bruised hip. He's probable for the game in Toronto. ...


Minnesota-Toronto

Fred Hoiberg left the game in the third quarter after he was kicked in the heel and bruised. His condition will be evaluated today. Troy Hudson retired early, too, when a hard collision with Jackson knocked him flat midway through the third quarter. Hudson stayed on the bench as a precaution, but Saunders said he is not injured.

The Wolves have set no timetable for the return of other injured players. Sprewell (sore left Achilles tendon) practiced Monday morning but is not expected to play Wednesday against Toronto.

Twincitiesissa seuraavaa:

The Wolves' injury situation became more troublesome after Tuesday's practice at Target Center. Point guard Sam Cassell (sore feet), shooting guard Fred Hoiberg (bruised heel) and backup power forward Mark Madsen (leg strain) were the latest Wolves needing medical treatment.
Saunders said all three are doubtful for tonight's exhibtion against Toronto in Moline, Ill. Hoiberg, who was injured in the second quarter of Monday's 98-86 loss to Atlanta in Omaha, Neb., did not practice Tuesday. Cassell and Madsen were held out of most of the drills. If Cassell doesn't play tonight, Kevin Garnett will be the only projected starter this season on the court. Saunders likely will go into tonight's game without Sprewell, Cassell, Hoiberg, Madsen, center Michael Olowokandi (knee) and swingman Wally Szczerbiak (plantar fascia strain in left foot). With the exception of Hoiberg, this group represents the hub of the Wolves' new look this season.

O'Neill has used the same starting lineup -- Vince Carter, Alvin Williams, Antonio Davis, Michael Curry and Jerome Moiso -- for all three pre-season games, and it's expected that he'll start that group tonight when the Raptors travel to the bright lights of Moline, Ill., to take on the Minnesota Timberwolves.


Golden State-Seattle

NOTES: Warriors point guard Nick Van Exel did not practice Tuesday because of a sprained left knee. He will not accompany the team for tonight's game against the Seattle SuperSonics in Reno. Van Exel is listed as day to day. ... Murphy and Foyle aren't expected to play.

Before the game, McMillan looked over at Luke Ridnour and said, "Sunday, right?" Ridnour smiled as he was warming up. Ridnour (abdominal strain) was scheduled to play Saturday against Portland in Spokane, but McMillan said Ridnour won't play until Sunday at Sacramento.
• Rookie power forward Nick Collison had successful surgery in New York to repair his dislocated left shoulder. Collison will miss the entire season. He is expected to have his right shoulder operated on in about two months, a precaution because the right shoulder is weakened.


Ei noihin otteluihin oikein uskalla koskea.
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 Viestin otsikko:
ViestiLähetetty: 16.10.2003, 19:26 
Status: JäsenLiittynyt: 14.01.2003, 15:45Viestit: 842Paikkakunta: Oulu
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Hawks-Heat

Shareef Abdur-Rahim looked like he was back to form during the scrimmage, slashing the hoop, taking a pounding and exploding to the basket for a dunk. But Stotts said Abdur-Rahim, who has missed the first three preseason games recovering from off-season back surgery, won't be available until Saturday against the Memphis Grizzlies.

"That's the schedule right now," Stotts said. "I'm going to play him part time on Saturday and Monday [against the Washington Wizards] and build the next three games after that."

Alan Henderson, who also has been out with back troubles, said he "more than likely" will return to the court Saturday.


Samaki Walker could make his debut after recovering from a broken arm suffered during a summer car accident. Guard Dwyane Wade (foot) could play.

Butler and forward Ike Austin did not travel with the team to Atlanta. Butler has been out since having left knee surgery Oct. 4. Austin, who is facing the possibility of being released, has a hip flexor. ...
The Heat released Joe Crispin, a guard from Penn State.

Clippers-Suns

While scoring a game-high 20 points on seven-of-eight shooting, Elton Brand suffered a sprained left ankle Tuesday night. He rode a stationary bike during Wednesday's practice and is doubtful for today's game, but the injury is not believed to be serious. Jaric and center Predrag Drobnjak are expected to rejoin the Clippers in time for Thursday's exhibition against the Phoenix Suns at Staples Center. Glen Rice is expected to play.

Rookie of the Year Amare Stoudemire will miss the Phoenix Suns' next two exhibition games to attend his grandfather's funeral in Florida.

Hornets-Bulls

With reserve guard Courtney Alexander out for the season after an Achilles' tendon injury, look for the Hornets to see what they can accomplish with point guards Baron Davis and Darrell Armstrong on the floor together. Jamal Mashburn (knee), Robert Traylor (ankle) and Bryce Drew (back) won't play.

Kirk Hinrich (bruised right knee), Tyson Chandler (sore back) and Corie Blount (tooth pulled) didn't practice Wednesday.


Jazz-Magic

Jazz rookies Raul Lopez (quad strain), Curtis Borchardt (broken finger, left hand) are out.

Orlandosta en löytänyt muuta kuin seuraavan, jo "vanhan", uutisen: guard Tracy McGrady is having trouble breathing because of inflammation in his lungs.

Rockets-Kings

A healthy Christie did not play against Houston because coach Rick Adelman wanted to give as many minutes as he could to Gerald Wallace and Peeler. Adelman said he may sit Peja Stojakovic soon for the same reason.

Lakers-Cavaliers

Coach Phil Jackson, who Wednesday added Horace Grant's concussion to Bryant's schedule and Shaquille O'Neal's heel and Rick Fox's foot, doesn't know when Bryant will resume his part of training camp. The Lakers play tonight and Friday night at Staples Center and Sunday in Bakersfield, tonight and Sunday against the Cleveland Cavaliers and LeBron James.

Jackson once had predicted Bryant and O'Neal would play in the coming few days, but it appears he has chosen to stop guessing.

For the Cavs, Dajuan Wagner (right knee) remains sidelined.
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ViestiLähetetty: 17.10.2003, 20:01 
Status: JäsenLiittynyt: 14.01.2003, 15:45Viestit: 842Paikkakunta: Oulu
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Raptors-Nuggets

The only injury of note for Toronto is to forward Michael Bradley, who made the trip. O'Neill said that Bradley's right knee is expected to be re-evaluated today.

The Nuggets were without guard Jon Barry, who has a cervical strain.
Forward Ryan Bowen is expected to play tonight after missing the past two games with a bruised right hip. ...
While Gillen said it was too early to speculate how long Tskitishvili would be out, it figures to be at least a few weeks.

Clippers-Cavaliers

Kaman, sidelined because of a strained lower left leg, is expected to resume practicing next week. Drobnjak and fellow Serb Marko Jaric rejoined the team after taking care of visa matters Wednesday in Nogales, Mexico. Brand, who sat out because of a sprained left ankle, also will sit out today against the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Eilisen pelin boxscoresta: D. Wagner DNP - Right Knee Effusion. Luultavasti ei uusia loukkaantumisia.

Nets-Celtics

...tonight at Continental Airlines Arena against Boston, when Kidd makes his first appearance of the preseason after having taken the first three games off to reduce the strain on his body...

Bostonilta luultavasti sivussa seuraavat:

T. Delk, Strained Right Calf, W. McCarty Swollen Right Knee ,J. Jones Strained Bilateral

Pistons-Heat

HAMILTON OUT: Shooting guard Richard Hamilton will miss at least the next two games with a small fracture in his nose, suffered in the second quarter against Boston when he took an elbow from Celtics rookie Marcus Banks. Hamilton will have an outpatient surgical procedure done today.
Still out of the Pistons lineup were Hubert Davis (left hamstring), Lindsey Hunter (right hamstring), Bobby Sura (stiff back) and Zeljko Rebraca (rehabilitation from heart procedure).

Caron Butler ainoa merkittävä poissaolo Miamilla, loukkaantuneena ollut rookie-Wade pelasi Atlantaa vastaan.

Pacers-Timberwolves

O'Neal, who sat out Wednesday's exhibition loss to Denver, will sit out tonight's game against Minnesota at Conseco Fieldhouse and Saturday's game against Boston in Manchester, N.H. Kenny Anderson, who has yet to play in the preseason because of a pulled hamstring, probably won't be available tonight.

Al Harrington, Austin Croshere, Kenny Anderson, Jonathan Bender and Anthony Johnson sat and watched while the rest of the roster failed to keep up with rejuvenated Denver in a 100-93 loss at Conseco Fieldhouse.

Former Pacers guard Fred Hoiberg, who has averaged eight points in three games, is doubtful tonight for Minnesota with a bruised right heel. Michael Olowokandi (knee surgery) is out and Latrell Sprewell (Achilles tendon), Wally Szczerbiak (strained foot tendon) and Mark Madsen (strained groin) are doubtful. Sam Cassell (left foot) is questionable. . .

Grizzlies-Magic

Injury update: Magic: Drew Gooden (sprained right ankle) and Zaza Pachulia (sprained left ankle) are questionable. Pat Garrity (right knee rehabilitation) and Grant Hill (left ankle rehabilitation) are out. Grizzlies: Michael Dickerson (sports hernia) is out.

Spurs-Knicks

Spurseilla ei taida olla ketään loukkaantuneena.

Although he felt slightly out of sorts, Allan Houston scrimmaged for the first time this preseason and believes he'll be ready to make his preseason debut when the Knicks play tonight in San Antonio.

Chaney will limit Houston's minutes tonight - but at least the Knicks can be judged more accurately. Chaney said he'll play Houston about 15-16 minutes, but may extend that to 20 minutes if the star shooter is quick to regain his rhythm.

Jazz-Sixers

This is Utah's third exhibition game in four nights... Jazz center Curtis Borchardt (broken finger, left hand) and point guard Raul Lopez (fatigued quadricep muscle) will not play.

..said injured veteran Derrick Coleman, who made it through a full practice for the first time and now plans to play in the final preseason games.

Ayers plans to give his starters more minutes and work on establishing a substitution rotation with which he will be comfortable as the regular-season opener races toward the Sixers.

..forward Kenny Thomas will not travel with the team because of a bruised right hip and tendinitis in his right Achilles tendon. Nor did Iverson - who was excused from practice yesterday for what the Sixers called "personal business" - travel with the team to Salt Lake City for the game tonight with Utah. It had not been determined whether Iverson, who appeared at the Sixers' training center after practice yesterday, will rejoin the club for tomorrow night's game in Dallas.
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ViestiLähetetty: 19.10.2003, 15:31 
Status: JäsenLiittynyt: 14.01.2003, 15:45Viestit: 842Paikkakunta: Oulu
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Eilisen peleihin en viitsinyt kaivaa loukkaantumisia. Tulokset olivat taas taattua preseason-laatua. Toisin sanoen, niissä ei ole yhtään mitään järkeä.

Tämän hetken tilanne: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/standings
Miami, Toronto, Utah ja Golden State divisioonien kärkijoukkueina... 8)

Itse kauden alkuun on enää vajaa 10 päivää.. :shock: nopeaanpa tuo 5 kuukautta vierähti. Täytynee tehdä tässä viikon aikana joukkueista jonkinlaista lässytystä taululle.
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